from newtown to new town, where the similarity. gun lovers in the united states, hunters and gun lovers in austria, at this moment shattered all of that in australia. explain what happened afterwards. >> in australia at the time, it was a country -- and still is a country where hunting is an important activity. australia went olympic medals in shooting. australia is a high premium placed on rustic masculinity. it has some similarities with the u.s.. another similarity is we had had in the previous couple of decades occasionally mass shootings, about once a year we had a mass shooting. on each occasion, there's a lot of talk about the gun laws, and politicians similar to hear, avoiding the issue saying, "well, we need to look at family values and mental health" and everything else, basically, been too frightened to do anything about the gun laws. the gun lobby always the -- to hurtothreatens politically. the anchor in the public was so high by then that really, that was the tipping point for australia. as you said, the prime ministe